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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 8:14 am

http://www.andreabocelli.com/2006/newsportal.html

On a beau s'y attendre ça fait tout de même un choc de voir que c'est toujours la même chose. On prend les mêmes et on recommence.

Je crois que je vais me désinscrire de la newsletter.....trop c'est trop.

Où sont les belles paroles "he is planning to come back to Paris in early 2007. "

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Postby sam on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 9:28 am

Ah beati loro!

Ancora non niente per noi :cry:
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Postby anna62 on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 11:48 am

Tu t'attendais vraiment à autre chose , Francesca ?? ...autant croire au Père Noël !!
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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 11:58 am

C'est vrai que c'est étonnant de voir qu'à mon âge j'ai encore des illusions !
Mais il suffit d'un coup de vent pour les balayer (comme les feuilles mortes)

"les feuilles mortes se ramassent à la pelle
les souvenirs et les regrets aussi
et le vent du nord les emporte
dans la nuit froide de l'oubli"

Cette partie de la chanson qui a été supprimée dans Amore.....
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Postby sam on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:13 pm

Francesca wrote:
"les feuilles mortes se ramassent à la pelle
les souvenirs et les regrets aussi
et le vent du nord les emporte
dans la nuit froide de l'oubli"....


Ah amica, mi fai piangere :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby kbarham on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:28 pm

Great news. Now all I could hope for is the announcement of Andrea in concert here in the UK which would be sheer bliss \:D/
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Postby kaycarley on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 12:51 pm

It appears that Andrea is choosing a few projects which interest him in Europe but still intends to tour the US annually perhaps performing in a few selected places en route. Surely France is due to be included? I hope so becaust the longer he stays away the more difficult it will be to fill the venue when he does eventually,appear. We saw a little of this effect in his last tour here. I know he can't be everywhere so this is inevitable and personally I would prefer to see him here well rested and not exhausted from his American tours. Also if possible in some decent venues.
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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 1:16 pm

kaycarley wrote:I hope so becaust the longer he stays away the more difficult it will be to fill the venue when he does eventually,appear. We saw a little of this effect in his last tour here.


C'est vrai Kay et ce sera de plus en plus difficile maintenant. Il faudrait avoir la sagesse de choisir une salle de dimension moyenne comme à Vienne et surtout de faire de la publicité pour le concert au lieu de l'annuler avant qu'on connaisse son existence.

I know he can't be everywhere

Si, à condition de ne pas être toujours au même endroit.....

8 concerts = 8 pays à visiter en Europe, ça ne fait pas plus de kilomètres.
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Postby sofia on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 2:16 pm

Il est vraiment important pour la continuation de la carriere de bien choisir les endroits d'un concert.On ne comprends pas toujours le choix.
Mais seul l'avenir peut confirmer le choix.Peut-etre on a tort......peut-etre on a raison!
Seul barometre est la vente des tickets!
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Postby carolina1954 on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 2:45 pm

sofia wrote:Seul barometre est la vente des tickets!


That will be interesting, but I bet we will never know how many tickets remain unsold.

Kay, was the O2 sold out, do you know ?
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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 3:12 pm

sofia wrote:Seul barometre est la vente des tickets!


A condition qu'on laisse le temps aux gens de les acheter et surtout qu'ils soient au courant.

En 2002 des places se sont vendues le soir même du concert.

Je pense que s'il n'y avait aucun concert pendant 5 ans aux Etats-Unis il serait ensuite très difficile de remplir les salles. C.Q.F.D.
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Postby sofia on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 3:29 pm

Je suis de votre avis ....attendons maintenant de voir l'evolution......esperons positive.
N'oublions pas ....Hollande et Anvers sold out ,et des prix hors parcours pour ces petits pays!
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Postby carolina1954 on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 3:37 pm

Holland and Belgium were only small arenas, maybe 10,000 seats?
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Postby sofia on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 3:55 pm

But then we are only small countries,no?
Betweem 12000 and 15000 seats in the sportpaleis means a lot,because he got his first worldwide succes starting from this sportpaleis in 1995 .
That opened the doors for elsewhere in the world ,and that is ok for me.
At least he did not have to cancel concerts overhere and I really wish the same for the rest of the world from now on.
12 or 15000 thousant seats,at that price.where tickets are sold usually for 15 euros,is a big victory.
You know ,I paid my ticket about 150 euros and I don't regret a cent of it.
But these are no european standards,so then of course it is the max ,selling out an arena of 12000 people at that price,adapted to local standarts!
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Postby carolina1954 on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 4:11 pm

Same here Sofia, I did not mind paying those prices for those 2 concerts, I think it was 129 euro for Rotterdam and 135 for Antwerp, still a lot of money, but I think they were good value.

I think a good artist will sell in Holland and Belgium. Marco Borsato sold out the Gelredome in Arnhem for 10 nights last year and that holds about 30,000 people, but I don't know how much the tickets were.
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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 4:24 pm

Mais à Paris ce sont les billets à 62 euros qui se sont le mieux vendus (là où on ne voit rien)pas assez rentable alors ?

Les places des premiers rangs (pas de VIP) étaient à 110 euros, les moins chères d'Europe, c'est pour cela qu'on nous a sacrifiés sans doute.

En 97 : 325 francs : moins de 50 euros = 17.000 places vendues
en 2002 : 85 euros = environ 12.000 places vendues (date reportée)
en 2006 : 110 euros .............
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Postby sofia on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 4:45 pm

Et pourtant je pense que les francais aiment vraiment Andrea Bocelli,et que Andrea Bocelli aime vraiment la france......alors peut-etre il y as eu une autre raison?Deux top tenors pour un pays ,c'est beaucoup!Qui peut savoir?
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Postby anna62 on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 5:35 pm

[quote="sofia"]Et pourtant je pense que les francais aiment vraiment Andrea Bocelli,et que Andrea Bocelli aime vraiment la france.....


Je ne suis plus sûre ni de la première affirmation , et encore moins de la seconde !!
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Postby jezabel66a on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 6:00 pm

Me parece bueno e interesante la serie de conciertos que dara ANDREA en US, ya en diciembre. Pienso que es un motivo de gran alegria para aquellos que lo admiran y esperan hace tiempo.
He leido y tratado de comprender todas vuestras opiniones, todas muy respetables, aunque disiento con algunas.
Crei entender que la charla derivo entre plazas de teatros, lugares "decentes", la necesidad de una "buena" y "apropiada" promocion, la publicidad.....y otros etc. Que si Andrea se cansa o no, si esta agotado de tantas presentaciones.....Bien.Pero siempre estamos hablando de Europa, a lo sumo de EEUU.
Creo que nadie, Y NO LOS CULPO POR ESO, puede entender el sentimiento casi de tristeza o decepcion que`podemos sentir quienes estamos tan lejos. ¿ Cuales serian las posibilidades para los que no estamos en Europa, o EEUU ? de seguro reunimos muchas de las condiciones para ser visitados, pero la realidad es que America se cae del mapa para algunos artistas. Que pena no ser atractivos como mercado. Aunque seamos un publico respetuoso , calido y afectivo, aunque tengamos sitios que brillen tanto como el que mas. Lo cierto es que siempre somos relegados. Y entonces me siento yo tambien estupida por seguir creyendo en Papa Noel.
Espero que si alguien lee estas lineas no se sienta ofendido, no es mi intencion de ningun modo. Las cosas son como son y yo me siento inexistente como publico para un gran artista como el señor ANDREA BOCELLI.
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Postby Mysz on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 6:12 pm

carolina1954 wrote:
sofia wrote:Seul barometre est la vente des tickets!


That will be interesting, but I bet we will never know how many tickets remain unsold.

Kay, was the O2 sold out, do you know ?


O2 arena was not sold out. On the last day you could buy tickets for £5.00. Of course these were not the best seats. The reason for not selling out at the O2 was possible due to this being new venue. Andrea had the second concert after the opening. Next concert at the O2 will be sold out. I am certain of this.
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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 6:53 pm

sofia wrote:Et pourtant je pense que les francais aiment vraiment Andrea Bocelli,et que Andrea Bocelli aime vraiment la france......alors peut-etre il y as eu une autre raison?Deux top tenors pour un pays ,c'est beaucoup!Qui peut savoir?


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Postby Francesca on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 6:58 pm

jezabel66a wrote:Me parece bueno e interesante la serie de conciertos que dara ANDREA en US, ya en diciembre. Pienso que es un motivo de gran alegria para aquellos que lo admiran y esperan hace tiempo.
He leido y tratado de comprender todas vuestras opiniones, todas muy respetables, aunque disiento con algunas.
Crei entender que la charla derivo entre plazas de teatros, lugares "decentes", la necesidad de una "buena" y "apropiada" promocion, la publicidad.....y otros etc. Que si Andrea se cansa o no, si esta agotado de tantas presentaciones.....Bien.Pero siempre estamos hablando de Europa, a lo sumo de EEUU.
Creo que nadie, Y NO LOS CULPO POR ESO, puede entender el sentimiento casi de tristeza o decepcion que`podemos sentir quienes estamos tan lejos. ¿ Cuales serian las posibilidades para los que no estamos en Europa, o EEUU ? de seguro reunimos muchas de las condiciones para ser visitados, pero la realidad es que America se cae del mapa para algunos artistas. Que pena no ser atractivos como mercado. Aunque seamos un publico respetuoso , calido y afectivo, aunque tengamos sitios que brillen tanto como el que mas. Lo cierto es que siempre somos relegados. Y entonces me siento yo tambien estupida por seguir creyendo en Papa Noel.
Espero que si alguien lee estas lineas no se sienta ofendido, no es mi intencion de ningun modo. Las cosas son como son y yo me siento inexistente como publico para un gran artista como el señor ANDREA BOCELLI.


Oui Jezabel nous comprenons ton amertume puisque vous n'avez jamais rien eu.
Ce n'est pas notre cas ici mais ce qui est dur à supporter c'est de voir que maintenant il n'y a plus rien de ce qu'on a connu.
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Postby carolina1954 on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 7:15 pm

Mysz wrote:
O2 arena was not sold out. On the last day you could buy tickets for £5.00.


I wish I had known this !!!! :evil:
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Postby Maris on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 8:32 pm

carolina1954 wrote:I wish I had known this !!!! :evil:


That is the case in most places. Rarely are the big venues sold out. If you live in the area, you can take this approach but if you travel, get a hotel room and are already into the experience for big bucks, you do not want to chance not getting that ticket. However, if you paid around $300.00-400.00 for a seat and the person next to you paid almost zip - that is disturbing. And it is sometimes those great seats that are given away. Empties close to stage to not look good. It's a gamble.

I had this happen to me once - riding my bike near a concert hall when I was acutally approached by management to see if I and my partner would be interested in the evenings performance. We were flabberghasted and delighted - and embarrassed when our tickets led us to the front of the concert hall and next to people in gowns and tuxedos! It was a great night and our tickets even admitted us into the reception afterward. There were a few other couples ridiculously underdressed and I assumed they had the same good luck as we.
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Postby Tesora on Thu 20 Sep, 2007 8:37 pm

Jezabel, if I understand your rants here and in the Spanish language forum, you are upset because Andrea is going to the US and not South America? Is that correct?

It is understandable that you want to see him, as do I (no Canadian concerts are listed either), but he cannot go everywhere. What is the fan base like in Argentina, do you know? Is he popular enough there that people would come to see him in sufficient numbers to make it worth his while?

Just wondering.....
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